Best Value Gaming PC Build November 2023!!!
Video Title: Best Value Gaming PC Build November 2023!!!
I get emails like this a lot and unfortunately I usually can’t give direct feedback this is somebody asking for help uh looking over their their build list for a PC upgrade or a whole PC build uh this is somebody uh specifically trying to go up from an old
Gtx980 build and they sent me a PC part picker list which I do actually have a lot of thoughts about so this particular viewer is going to get some help but it’s not really just going to be about this particular build in this video I do something more General if I was building
Something in roughly this price point uh would I build this no what would I build let’s find out but also in general how should you think about planning out a PC build uh what sorts of decisions go into that all of that um also one thing here
Is what price point should we look at if we ignore the operating system price we’re a little bit over $1,000 so that’s what we’re going to be trying to come in at now operating system prices I I don’t want to talk too much about this cuz so many people have different thoughts
About the like uh those OEM Keys you can get off of gray Market sites I personally don’t buy those and I don’t recommend them but many people do and have no problems with them uh one thing I will mention is if you buy an actual Windows license and maybe you already
Have one uh normal consumer license I believe you can tie it to your Microsoft account and then when you build your new pc you can just activate that so so a lot of people um uh don’t actually need to buy a new operating system license every time they upgrade so basically I’m
Not going to be factoring that in uh when we go into this I’m also going to be looking at buying parts new rather than used anyway with that being said let’s go ahead and hop in to uh a PC part picker list I’m not sponsored by
Them in any way but it’s a convenient way to search prices and and compare things and all of that now where should you start when you are thinking about your PC build um I’m going to assume we’re talking about a gaming PC not a work PC if we’re talking about a gaming
PC the the two most important components by far are the CPU and the GPU which is also called a video card now the uh the CPU and the GPU are both pretty much equally important uh to the system but the CPU is less compatible with a bunch
Of other stuff in other words you actually need to buy the correct motherboard and RAM to be compatible with the CPU and then everything is going to plug into that motherboard so you can kind of think of your CPU choice as defining a lot of the rest of the
Main components and then everything kind of slots into that so let’s start out with the CPU so where I recommend if you’re trying to decide on a CPU build uh sorry on a new gaming PC is to look up one of the most recent um uh uh CPU
Reviews and don’t just only look at the newest ones that came out but look at the other ones there so you can get a ballpark figure of how modern CPUs are comparing now I’ve pulled up one review here this is Tom’s Hardware I would always recommend looking up and by the
Way all my sources will be in the video description today um you could look up some other sources the different games that you test and things like that uh different Ram being used all of that can influence these results a little bit but all I’m looking for right now is a
Ballpark figure and I also like that Tom’s Hardware happened to put the current pricing although this isn’t going to be current as of today it’s current as of recently when they did these testing for the new 14th gen Intel CPUs now you can see that if you want
The fastest gaming CPU on the market you can buy a 7800 x3d um and it’s basically as fast as the 14900 K you can see there’s not a wide Gap here um and the 14900 K costs more it has more predictivity performance this is not a
Full CPU review but that’s the top end of the market however you could look down here and you’re still getting pretty good performance on something like a ryzen 7600 this is the X version you go down to something like a 1 400 from Intel for
Like $200 and you can save some money in your build now if your G now the thing is your gaming PC is usually going to be either primarily limited by the CPU or the GPU and this is where the PC gaming Market is going to be very split if you
Are primarily a competitive Esports gamer you will usually turn down graphic settings and resolution settings on your uh in your games to ease the burden on your GPU until your CPU reaches its maximum performance in which case you will primarily be CPU limited while gaming and you should prioritize your
Budget as buying the fastest CPU and RAM combo that you can fit into your budget as long as it’s not stupidly scaling price-wise but something like the 7800x 3D is a great choice also if you play a certain game sometimes certain games perform differently than the averages do
And you should research that carefully now um if you are primarily a single player gamer or you don’t take your Esports quite so seriously and you like to turn up the graphic settings then it is more likely that you are going to be GPU Limited in which case a faster CPU
Will not actually produce a faster frame rate because your CPU is waiting for your GPU to finish its calculations now having a faster CPU does mean you could upgrade your GP you in the future and take advantage of more of that difference but this is something that
Confuses people a lot so in my opinion uh well I mean let me put it this way not really my opinion but for the purposes of this video I’m going to assume a more balanced approach that’s also more focused on um on uh probably leaning towards singleplayer graphically demanding gaming because that’s my
Personal preference but again if you’re more of the esport side of things maybe shoot for the higher-end CPU I’m going to shoot toward the bottom of this list around the 7600 is range and we also compare it to the 13400 but here’s my main thing here your CPU also determines
Your motherboard platform and your motherboard platform may or may not be able to upgrade to newer CPUs in the future amd’s ryzen CPUs on the 7,000 series are at the beginning of a new platform the am5 platform and there will definitely be at least one major CPU upgrade coming with the 8000
Series and AMD set a trend with their am4 platform of providing even future generational upgrades beyond that although we don’t have any for sure guarantees on that with this current generation however um Intel is at the very end uh with their 14th generation on this current motherboard platform so
You literally cannot go beyond this point if you’re going to be using um if you’re going the Intel route uh there’s also differences in the motherboard costs and things like that but here’s where I’m coming down at I would personally Le lean toward a ryzen processor right now um if they’re
Offering a similar performance per dollar for gaming because you will then be able to have the option to upgrade to a faster one in the future um much more meaningfully than you’re going to get if you go with the Intel route at this point so with that being said let’s pop
Into current prices and my gut feeling is the 7600 is going to be the way I want to go uh but this would be sorry the uh ryzen uh the ryzen 7600 now notice there’s an X version and a non-x version there are minor clock speed differences
Here which does not amount to massive performance differences for example if we went to this chart you would just minus a few FPS off of this it would be right about here if you go with the non-x version which in my opinion is probably worth it
And you might even be able to get that performance back by enabling like pre Precision boost overdrive or maybe manually tweaking the clock settings also this one will be more energy efficient out of the box at 65 Watts which makes it easier to cool and this
One is also going to come with a stock cooler this one will not uh which means you could if you were in a pinch not buy a separate CPU Cooler and just get by with the stock cooler on this one so that um that I think is where I’m going
To go again um if we looked at this you could go with the 13400 however if I check those prices right now um I I guess we should at least compare but again I like the upgradeability quite a bit and the 13400 was showing lower performance in these
Settings so we’re seeing again it is a bit cheaper but you lose out on some performance and you lose out on some uh upgradeability now there is the 13600 but then that is even more expensive and you still lose out on the upgrade ability so I I’m personally
Attracted to the ryzen am5 platform for upgradeability reasons and the 7600 non-x coming with the stock cooler uh and uh not much less performance to me is going to be where I want to be um uh for this build and we’ll talk about places you could spend more if you
Wanted to again 7800x 3D uh if you’re planning on being more CPU limited um uh gaming wise now you could save money by not getting a new CPU Cooler at all this does come with a stock cooler the stock cooler will be a little bit noisy but
Will probably get at least most of the full potential if you’re not overclocking or anything out of the CPU uh now the viewer I’m responding to mentions that he would be hoping to reuse some parts and he did have an old CPU Cooler uh you would need to look if
It had the correct um uh mounting stuff to mount onto a um onto an AM 5 platform there’s uh good chances that it would be now if I did want to buy an aftermarket cooler uh usually the thermal right Peerless assassin uh uh does offer very good bang for the buck there’s some
Other ones that do too but let’s go ahead and throw a cooler on here uh just for the sake of doing it and I’ll say that a place we can cut money at the end of the build if we need to will be to remove this and just go with the stock
Cooler now motherboards so on PC part pi if you’ve already picked your CPU it will only show you motherboards that are compatible with that CPU you could then click the price button to sort prices low to high however that doesn’t mean you should just buy the lowest price so
At this point um the lowest price ones are going to be a620 motherboards which are going to have some more limitations on I believe their overclocking ability and and things like that b650 has much fewer limitations on that but I don’t think offers you a pcie Gen
5 slot um but honestly even an RTX 4090 does not really require a pcie Gen 5 slot and in our price point even if you upgrade it in the future uh it’s unlikely to really need that and and the uh ssds that are PCI Gen 5 are really
Faster than you actually need right now anyway as well so I think b650 is fine now the cheapest one’s 120 should you always buy the cheapest one uh one thing to look at is specific reviews on specific motherboards also the motherboard manufacturers will offer different warranties and things like
That so you might want to look into those specifics uh for me personally um I think uh the D3 actually wait I’m thinking of the ds3h I think it’s called yeah ds3h I know reviewed decently if I’m remembering correctly on vrm testing from uh Hardware unboxed I’m not really
A motherboard expert this is coming in you know 25 $5 more than the absolute cheapest one so I’ve heard good things about this particular board so I think I’m going to select that however I am curious if this uh this one I actually originally mistook for it uh the D3 HP
For a little bit less um I I need to do a feature comparison I don’t have reviews up on that so I’m going to go with this and just mention that you could shave more money off the build buying a cheaper motherboard I just happen to have seen um decent reviews on
This one if I’m remembering the motherboard name correctly uh and it’s not too much more than the than the cheapest b650 uh what should you look for in a motherboard if you need certain inout like this will be determining what kind of how many USB slots you get uh things
How many RAM slots you get things like that uh so if you also if you have want built-in Wi-Fi rather than adding on a Wi-Fi connector or plugging in through Ethernet those would all be things that are uh impacted by your motherboard choice so if you have specific needs on
A certain number of USB slots a header for a case to have a USB type-c header um if you need like I said a certain number of uh RAM slots a certain number of you know all that kind of thing you might need to look more carefully at
Your motherboard choice but this one is compatible with our CPU um and I as far as I know got decent reviews so here we go slotting it in in into the build now like I said the the next most important choice is your your video card however we also need memory
RAM we need RAM and uh the ram also affects the CPU performance so if you if you’re not limited by the performance of your GPU then you’re likely limited by the performance of your CPU but your CPU works with your RAM so the ram speed affects the speed of CPUs when you see
CPU reviews like this if they used slower Ram these numbers would be lower if they use fast faster Ram they might be higher that kind of thing that’s one of the things that impacts the CPU performance so um the newer platforms will be on ddr5 memory which you likely cannot
Carry over from an older build if you’re upgrading an older build um uh again if you’ve already selected these parts in PC part picker you could sort prices low to high but you’re going to get like just an 8 GB stick how much RAM do you
Need honestly while 16 GB in most games still does get the job done if you have literally nothing else open on your PC RAM prices aren’t so crazy that you shouldn’t buy 32 GB of RAM uh if you’re if you’re not just absolutely cutting corners on every every little bit so uh
Also I think it’s generally better to get two sticks than one I think on ddr5 that might be less important than it used to be on ddr4 but don’t quote me on that I’m not not a a super Ram expert so we’re still going to go with two sticks
Of Ram uh 16 GB each for 32 GB of RAM coming in to St sticks um I think that’s going to be the safest bet to go now on RAM speeds you want to pay attention to the speed but also the cast latency which both can impact the first word
Overall latency and a lower latency is better so higher speed better lower latency better and those things work together on um on ryzen it’s generally considered that ddr5 6000 is easy to support meaning um the ram kits will usually be able to run at that speed on on your CPU and motherboard combo
Without issues and then going for a lower cast latency will boost uh performance from there so I’m going to go ahead and use a filter to set the to look for uh uh uh ddr5 6000 and notice that the prices here are fairly low but then we can look at the
Cast latency from here so cast latencies um down at 32 is not terrible at all all it’s going to get us some more performance than the 40 you can go all the way down to 30 it looks like here now clev I have no idea what clev is I
Have at least heard of aloy um so I’m G to lean a little bit more towards this one now the other thing I should mention is that your motherboard will have if you go to the motherboard manufacturers website they will have a qvl list a qualified vendor list which
Shows specific Ram kits that they have verified work with your motherboard however um usually Ram will still work if it’s the correct speeds even if it’s not specifically on the qvl list but if you want to avoid headaches you could buy something off the qvl list I’m going
To be a little bit more daring and not check that um also you should check whether your motherboard supports just amd’s um what is it called it’s not uh uh amd’s Expo or um or if it goes with uh Intel’s XMP profiles sometimes it will work with
Both even on on a ryzen motherboard and sometimes it will just be one or the other um and some Ram kits will only come pre-programmed with just the XMP profile or the uh Expo profile or sometimes both now uh I’ve actually double checked in the past that this
Motherboard does say it I now I haven’t used this motherboard myself but the motherboard says on its new egg product page which I checked that it should support both uh Intel um XMP as well as uh amd’s Expo now you could set the ram speeds and timings yourself but
Basically the Rams will the ram will not actually run at these advertised speeds and timings when you plug it in you have to set that in the Motherboard BIOS and that’s one of the most common mistakes people make when building a PC is forgetting to do that and then you
Leave performance on the the table so again this should be compatible and it should run its XMP profile out of the box on this motherboard if for some reason it didn’t that this Ram kit should still be rated for running at these timings but you might then have to
Manually program that in the Motherboard BIOS anyway so I think we’ve got good bang for the buck on the ram kit here again you could buy something off the qvl list if you want to be more careful now again the next most important component is the graphics card so let’s
Go ahead and take a look at that now here’s the good news uh and some the bad news the bad news is the newest gpus right now and this is why a lot of people are kind of down on building a PC right now is that the newest generations of gpus the 40
Series from Nvidia and the 7,000 series from AMD have for the most part gotten bad reviews as far as offering big generational uplifts in price to Performance that being said um they have also forced down the price of older generation gpus especially amd’s 6000 Series so I’m going to show you
Guys uh where I would buy if I was buying either AMD or or Nvidia right now for the best bang for the buck uh from the two vendors um but also let’s talk in general about upgrading and like what kind of performance uplift should you be targeting so our um uh person we’re
Responding to is coming from gtx980 almost any modern GPU is going to be a massive improvement over that and uh the other thing I want to take a look at is the tech PowerUp GPU database so this thing isn’t perfect uh but this does give you a ballpark figure
Of how a lot of gpus compare uh for example if I pull up that gtx980 you can get its stats it’s a 4 GB graphics card and if you scroll down you can get it relative performance to a lot of other gpus like one of the only modern gpus
It’s kind of close to is something like a 6500 XT from AMD which honestly you just shouldn’t buy um if you have a reasonable budget um and even then maybe look for something used now if we scroll up you can see where Modern gpus kind of perform compared to this so something
Like an RX 6600 from AMD is 65% faster now one thing I will note note here is that this uh this list is not perfect um individual games can be different uh just even the averages can be a bit off from what I see in my own testing but
Not usually off by more than 5% or so if you are only talking about nonr tracing performance so this gets you and also if you’re not spilling over vram capacity uh so that so this shouldn’t be used as your only thing you look at but if you don’t have an encyclopedic knowledge of
The latest gpus this givs you a rough idea of okay I’m looking at this new GPU how does it compare to my old one an RX 6600 would be about 65% faster again if we’re not spilling over vram and we’re not um talking about any particular game
And if we’re uh you know not using Ray tracing or anything like that right so that’s kind of how you could read this and it’ll be a ballpark figure something like an RTX 3060 could be like 76% faster personally if I’m upgrading an older GPU I would really want double the
Performance or better to feel like the whole giant expensive new build was worth it also personally if I can fit it into my budget I would want to buy something that is better than what is in the current latest generation uh gaming consoles uh the PlayStation 5 is
Somewhere along the lines of an RX 6700 uh kind of a little bit below below a 6700 XT and the 6700 XD offers great performance my heater’s kicking on so apologies if you’re now getting some fan noise in the background we’ll just roll with it anyway uh 6700 XT uh is a great
GPU right now and offers good per bang for the buck but I just posted on my Community page the RX 6800 uh which is going to be almost three times the performance of the 980 um actually it’ll be more in the later D latest dx12 games especially games that
Are using more than 4 gigb of vram this can to be a massive performance bump and right now let me check if the prices are still available yeah I’ve seen these as low as $380 and this will fit well into our $1,000 is build so um like I said
The 6700 XT would also be similar performance to a gaming console you can get them for that’s 67 non XD that’s similar performance to the gaming console but gaming consoles are generally better optimized uh than the PC versions of the games so the 6700 XT would be similar to what you’d probably
Be getting going in your um uh on your PlayStation 5 and the 6800 is going to be faster and it’ll also have 16 GB of bam and the gaming consoles have 16 GB of unified memory which means they can often use more than 8 GB and sometimes
As much as 12 uh and again they’re also generally running a bit more optimized so you can easily spill o uh spill uh into uh High vram usage and this generally goes up over time in games so getting that large vram capacity here is a great option so I’m going to go ahead
And add in the RX 6800 as my bang for the buck in this price range cuz you guys can see our build’s not even done and we’re already adding in that GPU puts us uh um to almost $900 and we still have more components we need to
Fit in however if you need to go Nvidia let’s look at a few uh nearby options on our general performance list so if I set the 6800 as the Baseline you can see that the nearest current generation competitor from Nvidia is the 46ti which is a bit slower when you’re
Not using Ray tracing it can be faster when you’re using heavier rate tracing workloads although in light rate tracing workloads they can often actually be roughly tied um however the 4060 TI only has 8 GB of vram and the latest games can spill over 8 GB of vram now you
Could dial in your um uh you could dial in your graphic settings to stay within your vram buffer but the 46ti is basically the same price um you know very close slightly cheaper than the 6800 16 GB card right now Nvidia also has a better upscaler with dlss but I
Really just don’t think the 4060 TI is it the 4070 launched it at uh $600 has recently been discounted to $550 and certain models right now are actually on sale as low as $520 now all these different cooler models on gpus we should probably talk about it what to make of that better
Cooling can sometimes mean you have a bit more overclocking potential it can also mean uh your card might run quieter now if you’re using using headphones when you’re gaming you might not care about the fan noise also the different GPU uh cooler manufacturers will offer different warranty support and you could
Look into the details on that to see how much that means to you if I was going to buy an Nvidia GPU right now I would buy the 4070 that being said the 6,800 now you know the 4070 is about when you’re not rracing 10ish per faster on average
Sometimes more sometimes less when you’re not Ray tracing if you are using Ray tracing and the 470 can be fast enough where that makes sense especially if you’re using dlss and DSs is a better upscaler than than FSR on the 6800 uh I do think the 4070 is a better GPU here I
Would rather have a 470 than a 6800 even though the 4070 is only 12 GB 12 GB really is pretty much enough at 1440p right now especially if you’re willing to occasionally tweak one setting and maybe use dlss in the future you know that could go up over time but I’m not
Too concerned about it on a card with like the 4070 that being said bang for the buck the 4070 is a little bit faster but it’s $520 the 6800 fits better into our budget at $380 so to actually try to come in around um around our actual th000 budget
I’m going to choose the 6800 if you want to go the Nvidia route I think go the 4070 and you may need to increase your budget or cut other things in the build which will be really painful for your CPU upgradeability and all of that but the GPU is an extremely important part
Of uh your of your gaming PC and I think the 6800 is offering Great Value right now now let’s go ahead and finish up the build quickly the rest of these components don’t really have a direct impact on gaming performance for the most part storage in
SSD um just stores the game and the game might load faster and the latest games designed for like a PlayStation 5 uh which does have extremely fast SSD can actually make more of a difference to to in-game like streaming of assets not stuttering things like that in the
Absolute latest games that leverage like PS5 uh SSD speeds that being said usually a fast gen 3 Drive is fine you don’t necessarily have to get a fast Gen 4 drive also games can be big so getting at least one tbte is in my opinion a must and 2 terabytes would be better
However uh we’re pretty close to our budget limit right now so we’re going to check uh What uh what kind of if we could get a fast Gen 4 drive but limit it to one terabyte uh again um you could get two terabytes pretty easily so I’m
Going to sort to at least a terabyte and I’m going to sort ssds only I’m going to sort prices low to high now I don’t have an encyclopedic knowledge of these but I know that these first ones being listed uh I know a lot of them and I think many
Of these are fairly slow um they would generally be compl completely fine though they’d be completely fine I kind of like the idea of trying to get a decently fast Gen 4 drive if it’s not much more money and I’m spotting one right here I do know
That the team group cardia zero z440 is not one of the fastest PCI Gen 4 drives but it is faster than the fastest gen 3 drives and one tbte for $46 doesn’t seem like a bad deal to me you could save money by getting a slower
SSD uh or you could spend more and get a 2 terab Drive the prices on ssds are really good right now this is one of the places where PC Building is a lot cheaper right now than it used to be is in the SSD speed uh you can also add in
More later this going to be a very fast Drive um not the fastest but a fast drive so where I think full gaming performance should not be an issue uh I’d recommend two terabytes if you can afford it but we’re we’re guys we’ we’ve
Got a fit a case in a power supply and we’ve got $100 left I think we might go slightly over budget but not by much okay cases right now cases you could just sort price low to high and make sure your measurements fit however if the case doesn’t come with fans you’re
Going to have to buy fans for cooling so I would recommend buying a case that comes with some fans you also need to check the GPU length fits and one thing I’ll tell you guys right now is the GPU I’ve selected here this uh XFX Speedster
Swift uh 6800 if I remember right this thing is extremely long so you will need a case that can fit it and I can tell you right now that I have a Corsair uh 4000d airf flow and it’s on sale right now for $80 the uh this case its main
Downside is that it’s only going to come with two fans one in the front and one in the back however if you’re running a fairly low powerered um CPU and uh CPU and GPU these don’t draw a huge amount of power you’re probably not going to be thermal throttling or anything like that
And you could upgrade case fans in the future so I’m going to go ahead and throw in a case that I know is good quality and that I know um will fit this GPU again you could spend less on the case but I’d say recommend it f make
Sure it fits a GPU this long if you’re buying this GPU and make sure that you can um uh uh totally lost my train of thought U make sure that it has fans or that you’re buying fans now last thing we need is a power supply okay you can
Easily buy junk or you can easily overspend this uh this build right now PC part picker will track it only uses an estimated 424 Watts now that being said a c a power supply will run most efficiently if you’re not running it right at its maximum amount so could you
Squeeze into like a 550 W power supply here and probably not have a major meltdown yes if it’s good quality do I recommend it probably not 650 WTS would feel a lot more comfortable and 750 watts would make sense if it doesn’t cost a lot more for both The increased
Efficiency running at about half of the power supply load but also to support a future GPU upgrade I’m going for upgradability uh with this build so let’s go ahead and see what we can find so I’m going to limit our power supplies to at least 650 Watts
And I want decent efficiency so I’m going to support 80 plus gold platinum or titanium now to be clear these are efficiency ratings not quality ratings so just because a a power supply is 80 plus gold does not necessarily mean it’s good quality I’m also going to sort prices low to
High um now when you’re looking at individual uh Power Supplies you should okay there’s a power supply tier list that’s run by the cultist webs site where you can look at like tier a tier B whatever um I don’t have an encyclopedic uh encyclopedic knowledge of that off
The top of my head so you could compare these power supplies versus those however um I will say that uh I don’t think a lot of these cheap ones here are on it this gf1 from thermal take might be a high tier one but some
Thermal takes are lower on it and I’m a little bit unsure off the top of my head um as we scroll down here a little bit um SE Sonic’s usually pretty good brand I think some of their focus power supplies are tier a that’s 650 watt um
Personally I do like a lot of the corsairs um so I’m kind of scrolling down if we limit us to $100 the Corsair RM 750e 2023 Edition I am fairly confident is tier a it’s fully modular it’s 7 5050 Watts uh this would be a
Pretty good one that I can uh that I’m very confident about now that being said well I’m going to add this one in uh the last thing we could talk about is where you could cut some from your budget but let’s go ahead and see where
We’re at so we’re coming in at a little bit under $1,100 remember my uh hypothetical build I was given uh from the viewer came in at almost $1,200 although they had the operating system cost factored in like I said you may already have a Windows license tied to your Microsoft account
And not need to pay anything for that or maybe you do have to buy a Windows license so do factor that in but we’re pretty close to where um where this budget was but let’s go ahead and see how we did okay how did we do um the
Ryzen 75800 x is an 8 core processor I I went ahead and went with a six core processor however each core is faster and from a newer generation so this will be more processing power and it will be faster in gaming so I think we got a better power sorry a better processor
And we’re on a motherboard that will support future upgrades my main problem with the 5800 X choice is that puts you on am4 which puts you on a um a no upgradeability platform um for future CPU generations and they were already going to spend around $130 on that
Motherboard and we spent not much more than that to get a mother am5 motherboard platform right there uh I do have a CPU Cooler here and I’ll I’ll say right now that if you need to cut down closer to the ,000 mark like I said this
CPU will come with a stock cooler and if you had to you can cut that um cut that CPU Cooler your build will be a bit no a bit noisier U but that does cut us down closer just a little bit right um so I think we did pretty well versus that uh
This uh list uh also had 32 GB of Ram but we have a faster ddr5 memory and only paid a little bit more for that uh we also have a 1 tby SSD but I got a Gen 4 SSD which is faster than this mp33 gen
3 Drive um and they were going to go with an RTX 370 TI the 3070 TI is an 8 GB graphics card if we go to our uh our tier list here it’s very similar performance to our RX 6800 um when you don’t spill over the
Vram um and it could even have faster rate tracing performance we’re actually similar on the GPU uh just with the uh Nvidia option so very similar GPU performance we have more vram less of the like dlss features things like that so a bit of a wash on the on the GPU
Choice um and again we chose a different case uh theirs is in a similar price range to ours um uh and their power supply I think they were looking at reusing a similar power supply to what they already had and that is something that people can look into although we
Did get a 100 watt increase over the 650 Watts that they had here so overall um it’s a similar build from a GPU perspective we’ve squeezed in uh a lot a lot of upgrades onto onto it and like I said if you wanted to go the Nvidia
Route um this is where I think uh you could take out the 6800 and I think you would try to do anything you could to fit in the RTX 470 which like I said right now is I think the best um the best value decently powerful GPU from
The Nvidia uh 40 series generation but again coming in at $520 that does raise this to a $1,200 build so if you could stretch to $1,200 then I think um upgrading to the 470 makes the most sense if you’re an Esports gamer um maybe see if you could squeeze in the
7800x 3D instead as your upgrade um overall I think these are pretty solid builds in the $1,000 to $2,000 price range and like I said if you did have to get down to that ,000 price point you could spend a bit less on these uh on
The uh power supply and the case and again uh this already has the CPU Cooler cut uh we could go ahead and add add that back in because this is uh what I would actually recommend again for an Nvidia build uh with the 470 and for the
AMD build with the uh 6800 all right my kids are getting home from school so I’m going to stop the recording wow this was a very long video hopefully this was useful though uh are guys interested in me doing other price points if you want
To do a real expensive build if you want to do a lower uh lower value build um not lower value but lower price build let me know and I hope all of you have an excellent day
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Parts list:
CPU: Ryzen 5 7600 https://amzn.to/3MnxXbK
CPU Cooler (Optional): Thermalright Peerless Assassin https://amzn.to/3MpIzXD
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650M DS3H https://amzn.to/3QBDvC8
RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 CL32 https://amzn.to/45SnxIa
SSD: TEAMGROUP T-Force CARDEA Z440 https://amzn.to/45OQswB
GPU (AMD Option, less $): RX 6800 https://amzn.to/40hwc5G
GPU (Nvidia Option, more $): RTX 4070 https://amzn.to/46SJisz
Case (Others are fine): Corsair 4000D Airflow https://amzn.to/40geDTG
PSU: Corsair RM750e (2023) https://amzn.to/46TB5nY
(Keep in mind exact prices will vary from when I filmed. Many can be easily swapped for similar options, which is why I tried to explain the decision process, not just give a parts list)
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Oh I can only dream of those prices here in Europe with 7800X3D for those 360USD
Great video , Thanks !
Wow never thought you could get this kind of price point to performance build. If only I waited 1 more year and persevere with my old PC a bit more I could've got this =s
Upgradability is overrated for most.
This dude rode out a 980 until now. He won't be upgrading for quite a while.
Dude just wanted to squeeze that 3070ti in. 😂
Edit: I am rockin a 4770k paired with a 1070ti. 1%ish bottleneck.
I am gonna grab the 13600 and wait until prices drop or look at a 3070 to as well, rather than a 4070. Hopefully the new cards specs drop soon and people start to sell. 😂
thumbs down.. dissagrees alot the parts: motherboard he picked was a MICRO.. WTH…
What's the best fatherboard?
What you said about Microsoft Windows is BS. The need for privacy is NUMBER ONE and you are clueless!
Head to head, does the 13600k beat out the 7600x??
One small correction about Cases: Sure you need to make sure you buy a case that fits your graphics card, but also one that fits your motherboard! It's rare to see full ATX boards nowadays, but make sure if your case is mATX (microATX), then your motherboard is also mATX. If your case is ATX, then it'll fit anything. This is usually a problem when you try to get a small case because of looks, and you end up with an ITX case or something – which is just not compatible with an easy budget build, don't build an ITX PC if you don't know what you're doing.
Don't mean to be rude but why would I listen to someone who says "I'm not an expert on this" about every single part they are recommending? First time watcher but this guy does not provide enough confidence.
Incredibly well explained and really useful insight in this video, anyone, newbies and experts can learn from this, honestly I'm amazed well done. 👏🏻
I'll send this vid to any friend that ask me for a PC build (yeah I'm that friend, as I'm sure mostly everybody here is too lol)
legend only upgrate when its 500% or 1000% on GPU
ch370 is absolutely bang for the buck case and deepcool fans are also cheap…
My parts list, after finishing the build yesterday
No brainer, go for AM5 for new builds
Ryzen5 7600 (it's basically the same CPU as the X version with slightly lower clock, and lower TDP. They just test all these CPU-s and if the 7600 maintains the higher TDP and clock for long period, they just sell it as 7600X, otherwise they label it 7600)
MB: Gigabyte B650 Gaming Gaming X. You can save some money here getting the B650M which is the mATX version of it, but the difference is small, and you are building a platform for long run upgrades over time. And having 3 NVMe slots is also nice. Gigabyte makes very reliable motherboards in comparison to…. okay let's not name names. …khm… Asus… ..khm…
Cooler: I bought the Scythe FUMA3, which is a 2 tower cooler with incredible performances and far lower price than the competitors like Deepcool, Noctua, so on. Very easy to install also.
RAM: Kingston FURY BEAST 16 GB (2×8) at 6000 MHZ, CL36 -First, 16 GB is still more than enough, Second CL32 or CL 30 are too expensive for now to be worth it. We can always upgrade in the future if we REALLY need it.
GPU: RTX 4070 12 GB…. (If that's too expensive I would also consider GTX 4060TI 16 GB) YES YES I know the whole thing around Radeons performing quite well lately, but I'm still shilling for Nvidia, shoot me. 😛 I like their reliable drivers, the very stable performance of the cards… But I'm sending them a warning for the future, to get their shit together, or I go team red )
SSD NVMe Samsung EVO Plus 1TB. You can't beat this one, it's a reliable, fast and probably the best value among their NVME SSD-s.
Case: All this packed in a Deepcool CH560 case (not the digital display version), which in my opinion is a PHENOMENAL case with plenty of room, easy install, love the mix of glass and mesh magnetic side panel (how cool is that, you get the best from both worlds, the extra ventilation from mesh for the GPU, but you get a glass panel also) 3+1 120mm fans already installed, RGB if you care about it, I didn't even plug the RGB cable in, I don't want christmas lights, the PC now looks like a total beast
10 minutes in and so far you’re almost copying my new build and with the amd 7600 + thermaltake peerless. I did go for the X in the end as I found you can run in eco mode (65w) and the price was almost identical with a deal I found . Are you inside head ? Let’s see where this goes …
Just got a 3080 prebuilt on Amazon for $999 pretty worth I think parts decent
Great video. Cheers
The problem overall, is that GPUs are costing more than CPUs. Therefore, an upgrade in CPU will almost always cost less if just moving from gen to gen in either product. Good points about the motherboard platform, definitely a bottleneck for upgrades. Thanks for bringing this to us!
building a bare minimum gaming pc just to save 50 bucks is pointless, if you gonna build a new pc and dont wanna be stuck in the same shithole AGAIN a year later, spend a little more, this is YOUR pc dont be cheap (assuming you can afford it) just get the best you can afford, dont try to save 100 bucks.
Why not just use the same $25 Pure Rock Slim 2 CPU Cooler? Rather than a $40 one. The 7000-series is more power efficient than a 5000-series, and your choice has fewer cores.
Facebook Marketplace is the way to go.
Such quality information. I unsubscribed from Hardware Unboxed because he only runs benchmarks @1080. He fails to understand that if you play 1080p you focus CPU but if you play 4k you focus harder on GPU and can get a slightly lower CPU. I've tried to explian this over and over. 35% of people play at resolutions higher than 1080p. They need the full scope of data to make an educated decison on their purchases.
At this point I think I have maxed out the AM4 platform a 5800X3D with a 7900XTX with 32 gigs of Ram. I don't know how long this will be good for. I'm hoping to get another 4 or 5 years but knowing me I will probably build another PC next year. I just need some of these parts to come down in price just a little but my PC is burning through everything as of now.
I plan to finally give my 970 gtx setup its well desevered rest and upgrade. Good thing, getting double or more power out of the upgrade is not that hard Lol.
Amazing video!!
Im gonna build this shouldmi do it or go for better choices tell me ur opinion the i think about budget.
I5 12400f
Msi mag b660 mortar max wifi ddr4
Rtx 3060 twin x2
Kingston beast fury 16 gb ram rgb
King ston ssd kc3000
Pk 650d psu
Deepcool ag400 led black
Galax rev 1 cabinet
Pls reply its my first pc i want the best choice
BUILT PC: The ram does not work up to speed on the motherboard and had to switch it over to something else, also my ssd only worked in one slot, weird, also had to flash bios and update as well.
Thanks I learned a lot however please do the perfect editing station that at times will be used for some gaming like simulator and kill them all 😅 games. But mainly film editing. Pricing 1500-2000$ monitor not included
best video
A 4060 uses 100w and runs immortals of aveum 1080p high 60 native …4K ultra with Dlss haha
Awesome video. Thank you bro
i was in the exact same boat as the OP asking here. but i went nuclear. i spent 3000 on building a 7950x system with a 4080 in it. I love my performance and i feel like i can get another 7-8 years out of it. but its nearly 3 times the cost of my last pc which was a prebuilt….
I know more about pc hardware now and i know i could have gotten around the same performance (at least in just gaming) for a considerable amount less. Mainly if i went with a lower sku cpu, i could have used a cheaper cooler and end up shaving like 500 bucks off the price right there. also considering the only rt heavy title i own and actually play is cyberpunk, i could have gone with a 7900xtx and gotten MORE performance at the cost of no rt… which is where i was anyways with my little 1070ti and ryzen 1700 system… lol. thats another 400 off the price right there and the xtx is faster than the 4080 in every metric but rt.
for 2100 bucks you can touch and play around in the highest performance bracket. but thats not actually necessary. you could go down a tier or two, or even in previous gen (6000) amd gpus and get near the 7800xt-7900xt performance for WAYYYYY less than the price of the current 7000 skus and end up with a total price somewhere around 1700 at this point.
Roll back to ddr4 and get a 5800x3d or 5900x with a standard ddr4 3200 kit thats inately half the price of ddr5, and you're now at like a flat 1k price for about the same exact performance as the second stepdown config i gave above.
I think in 2023 (yes, 1200 bucks is still allot) but around that price you should be able to still make one heck of a monster gaming rig. you have a good budget, i think this guy just needs a lil more time for research. i figure he's trying to get this done asap because the holidays, and he wants to get the deals going before they're gone.
My advise, go top end ddr4 because its still working just as well or better than low end ddr5 systems. The absolute ceiling of last gen will last you past nvidias 5000 launch, and amd's 8000 launch. we will be on ddr6 before people actually scoff at and call ddr4 useless. ddr4 was such a huge jump from previous generations highest end ddr3 speeds was 2000 mhz after a massiv oc on the highest sku intel cpu at the time. base ddr4 was 2133 base and now ranges into 4000mhz top end or actual base ddr5 speeds with serveral cpus from both amd and intel. and neither require stupid powerful oc's to achieve these speeds, just stupid expensive kits and extra voltage applied to the soc in bios.
There is no better upgrading path for the future. You are not going to upgrade to a CPU on the same socket in 10 years believe me. Just buy a mid range PC cheaper as you can. The next platform is completly different and AM4 is nowhere near to match what is coming.